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Why does my saddle lift up at the back? Part three

Ways to distinguish between the various causes and what you can, or can't, do about them.
Subscribe to RSS Feed First, set the saddle on the horse - in the correct position!! ( front bar tip behind the shoulder blade) - and step back. Is it falling down in front… https://www.rodnikkel.com/content/saddle-tree-blog-from-shop-and-desk/why-does-my-saddle-lift-back-part-three/

Why does my saddle lift up at the back? Part two

Same symptom, different causes. Here's two less likely causes, but still possible reasons for a saddle to lift up at the back.
Subscribe to RSS Feed In our last blog post, we described the three most common reasons saddles lift up at the back. These next two reasons are not as common, but are… https://www.rodnikkel.com/content/saddle-tree-blog-from-shop-and-desk/why-does-my-saddle-lift-back-part-two/

Why does my saddle lift up at the back? Part one

There are a number of possible causes to a saddle the lifts off the horse at the back. Here's the first few reasons.
Subscribe to RSS Feed This is a question we see not uncommonly on horse forums, and one we were asked a few months ago by a customer’s customer. (Not with this picture… https://www.rodnikkel.com/content/saddle-tree-blog-from-shop-and-desk/why-does-my-saddle-lift-back-part-one/

Padding doesn't fix mismatched "angles"

Often if a saddle is too large for a horse, people figure that putting extra padding underneath will compensate. But that doesn't fix things if the problem is that the angles on the tree are too wide for the horse.
Subscribe to RSS Feed A bit ago we showed you pictures of a tree that had too narrow a bar angle to fit the horse it was sitting on. Here’s one that has way too wide an… https://www.rodnikkel.com/content/saddle-tree-blog-from-shop-and-desk/padding-doesnt-fix-mismatched-angles/

What we would do

Here's our evaluation of what we would change in tree specs to fit this horse.
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What would you do?

Some pictures one of our customers sent us so we could help him figure out fitting specs for his customer.
Subscribe to RSS Feed Let's ask a skill testing question today… A little bit ago a saddle maker who builds on our trees went out to see a new customer. He took one… https://www.rodnikkel.com/content/saddle-tree-blog-from-shop-and-desk/what-would-you-do/

Evaluating a horse's back for saddle fit - part three

Looking at an angle from the front and then the back gives us a good idea about the amount of rock and crown a horse needs in his tree.
Subscribe to RSS Feed This is the last part of a three part series on how we assess a horse’s back to figure out what tree specs will work the best on him. In part one… https://www.rodnikkel.com/content/saddle-tree-blog-from-shop-and-desk/evaluating-horses-back-saddle-fit-part-three/

Evaluating a horse's back for saddle fit - part two

When we look at a horse to try to figure out what we will do in the tree to fit him, there are a number of different factors that we check. Here is what we are checking out when we see the horse from the back.
Subscribe to RSS Feed In the first part of this three part series, we discussed the types of things we look for from the side when we are trying to decide what specs to… https://www.rodnikkel.com/content/saddle-tree-blog-from-shop-and-desk/evaluating-horses-back-saddle-fit-part-two/

Evaluating a horse's back for saddle fit - part one

When we look at a horse to try to figure out what we will do in the tree to fit him, there are a number of different factors that we check. Here is what we are checking out when we see the horse from the side.
Subscribe to RSS Feed When we look at a horse in real life or look at pictures of horses that people send us, we don’t just look at the whole back and say “look at that… https://www.rodnikkel.com/content/saddle-tree-blog-from-shop-and-desk/evaluating-horses-back-saddle-fit-part-one/

Of saddle fit, shoulder blades, and "flare"

There is an idea that a tree should "flare out" at the front bar tips so it doesn't contact the horse, thus leaving room for movement of the shoulder blades. Here's an example of a tree built with that idea, and why it doesn't work in real life.
Subscribe to RSS Feed Something we read about quite often when looking at information on saddle fit is that the tree should “flare” out at the shoulders so there is room… https://www.rodnikkel.com/content/saddle-tree-blog-from-shop-and-desk/saddle-fit-shoulder-blades-and-flare/

He's gotta lotta rock...

Looking at some of the reasons some horses have more rock in their back than others.
Subscribe to RSS Feed A definition to start with: Rock is the curve from front to back, both on the bottom of the bar and along the horse’s back. The same… https://www.rodnikkel.com/content/saddle-tree-blog-from-shop-and-desk/he-s-gotta-lotta-rock/

Bar spread and how it works on horses

Lots of pictures in this post explaining why and when different bar spreads, defined by hand hole width in our trees, are chosen and what shape of horses the different spreads may fit.
Subscribe to RSS Feed We’ve been in this business long enough now to see some changes in the industry and in the relative numbers of horses of different sizes and… https://www.rodnikkel.com/content/saddle-tree-blog-from-shop-and-desk/bar-spread-and-how-it-works-on-horses/

The top line doesn't match the rock line

Looking at the top line of a horse doesn't tell you how much curve he has in his back under the bars of the saddle. You have to look at where the bars go. Here's a great example of the mismatch between top line and rock line.
Subscribe to RSS Feed When I read in various places about how to take templates on a horse’s back, the instructions that include more than just a “wither tracing”… https://www.rodnikkel.com/content/saddle-tree-blog-from-shop-and-desk/the-top-line-doesn-t-match-the-rock-line/

A study in contrasts

Comparing some measurements between a tree for a larger rider and a small child. Interesting the variety we can build in one week...
Subscribe to RSS Feed Or - The long and the short of it. I couldn’t decide on the best title… Here’s a couple trees we built in the same group of four. Funny how… https://www.rodnikkel.com/content/saddle-tree-blog-from-shop-and-desk/a-study-in-contrasts/

It's not just ancient history

And I thought the "donkey seat" was only on old pottery...
Subscribe to RSS Feed In some circles, there is a lot of discussion of where the ideal position of the rider on the horse is located.  (Whether or not that position is… https://www.rodnikkel.com/content/saddle-tree-blog-from-shop-and-desk/it-s-not-just-ancient-history/

The problems with too-short bars

While bars that are too long can cause problems for the horse, so can bars that are too short. Here's why.
Subscribe to RSS Feed I have written before (more than once actually) about the fact that it is perfectly OK for the loin of the horse to bear weight.  This is a fact… https://www.rodnikkel.com/content/saddle-tree-blog-from-shop-and-desk/the-problems-with-too-short-bars/

The things we record and why - part two

All the things that affect fit for the horse probably comprise the largest group of measurements in our database. Here's what they all are.
Subscribe to RSS Feed The next thing down our list, after the fork measurements, are bar specs and information on fitting the horse.  We keep track of measurements for… https://www.rodnikkel.com/content/saddle-tree-blog-from-shop-and-desk/the-things-we-record-and-why-part-two/

Saddle fit and your new saddle - from a tree maker's view

A brand new saddle doesn't ride as well as it will after a few hours of use. Here's some hints to help you understand what will change and why, as well as help you get properly acquainted with where the new saddle fits on your horse.
Subscribe to RSS Feed After a lot of thought, decision making, money and time, you finally have your brand new saddle!  Congratulations!!  However, it is important to… https://www.rodnikkel.com/content/saddle-tree-blog-from-shop-and-desk/saddle-fit-and-your-new-saddle-from-a-tree-maker-s-view/

Let's do the twist!

Twist is another of the factors that affect how the tree fits the horse. Here's more of what it is, how it changes between horses and how the definition changes between western and English saddles.
Subscribe to RSS Feed One of the Factors that Affect Fit that we haven't discussed yet on our blog is the amount of twist in the bar.  Because horse's backs are not… https://www.rodnikkel.com/content/saddle-tree-blog-from-shop-and-desk/let-s-do-the-twist/

The name of a bar - what it really tells you, or not

How do you describe how a bar fits? Well, some companies have specific names for specific bar fits, but they aren't consisten between makers. Here's what we do now, and an idea for the future.
Subscribe to RSS Feed When it comes to bars and how they fit, there is a common idea that certain bars always fit a certain way or are needed for specific uses.  In the… https://www.rodnikkel.com/content/saddle-tree-blog-from-shop-and-desk/name-bar-what-it-really-tells-you-or-not/